12/10/2009 – It was great to see everyone pitching in to help everyone on this. It’s time for me to get back to providing people with real home business ideas.
Update 7/21/2009 – I apologize for the delay in getting this up. I posted it separately, but should have posted it here:
Federal Trade Commission v. Infusion Media, Inc., a corporation, also d/b/a Google Money Tree, Google Pro, Internet Income Pro, and Google Treasure Chest, West Coast Internet Media, Inc., a corporation, also d/b/a Google Money Tree, Google Pro, Internet Income Pro, and Google Treasure Chest, Two Warnings, LLC a limited liability company, Two Part Investments, LLC a limited liability company, Two Part Investments, LLC, a limited liability company; Platinum Teleservices, Inc., a corporation; Jonathan Eborn, individually and as an officer of Infusion Media, Inc., Two Warnings, LLC, Two Part Investments, LLC, and West Coast Internet Media, Inc.; Stephanie Burnside, individually and as an officer of Two Warnings, LLC, Two Part Investments, LLC, and West Coast Internet Media, Inc.; Michael McLain Miller, individually and as an officer of Infusion Media, Inc., Two Warnings, LLC, and Two Part Investments, LLC; and Tony Norton, individually and as an officer of Platinum Teleservices, Inc.
(United States District Court for the District of Nevada)
Update 4/29/2009 – On April 24, 2009 the Texas Attorney General filed charges against the owners of Google Money Tree for operating a fraudulent Work-At-Home Scheme:
“AUSTIN – Attorney General Greg Abbott today charged two Utah-based defendants with operating a fraudulent work-at-home scheme. The state’s enforcement action names Infusion Media Inc. and Jonathan D. Eborn, whose “GoogleMoneyTree.com” promised six-figure earnings for conducting specialized Google and Yahoo Internet searches
According to investigators, the defendants promised big payouts in order to convince Web users to spend $3.88 on shipping and handling for a “free kit” that supposedly would show them how to make money from home. Those who purchased the kit were later surprised to discover they were being charged $72 a month by the defendants.”
“According to the state’s enforcement action, GoogleMoneyTree failed to clearly inform purchasers that they had been enrolled in monthly memberships and had only seven days to cancel their trial membership. Purchasers who failed to cancel within seven days were automatically charged $72 on their credit card statements each month. In addition to the unexpected credit card charges, customer complaints obtained by state investigators indicate that GoogleMoneyTree failed to actually send the “free kit” and refused to honor customer refunds.
The state is seeking an injunction, civil penalties of up to $20,000 per violation of the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, as well as restitution for purchasers. Texans who believe they have been misled by similar business practices may file complaints with the Office of the Attorney General toll-free at (800) 252-8011 or file complaints online at www.texasattorneygeneral.gov.”
Update 4/11/2009 – Another version of the site – Google GoldMine seems to be using the new, better disclosure referenced in the 3/25/2009 – at least the version I saw was.
Update 3/25/2009: I just noticed that Google Money Tree has changed how they disclose the terms of their offer since I last looked at it. The new disclosure of the monthly charges is SIGNIFICANTLY better than it has been previously. The terms of the 7-day trial are in the big “100% Satisfaction Guarantee” box directly to the left of the form where you enter your credit card information.
There are a couple things I personally still don’t like in the new version is that the monthly charges are written out instead of done numerically. I.e. the text is “After the trial, you will be charged seventy two dollars and twenty one cents a month” instead of “After the trial, you will be charged $72.21 each month.” Also, it would be nice if the heading of the box would be something like “Important Details About This Offer”.
But I don’t want to take away from the fact that they’ve vastly improved the disclosure of the terms of the trial offer.
Update 2/26/2009: Despite various improvements, Google Money Tree still has complaints rolling in about various issues.
Update 2/6/2009: Since this was originally posted Google Money Tree has made significant improvements (in my opinion) to their sales process.
If you are going to post a comment – and are able to do so – please post the original date that you ordered Google Money Tree as it would be interesting – and could be helpful – to match those dates up with the version of the Google Money Tree sales page that was current at the time.
Note: This is NOT an endorsement of Google Money Tree, but an acknowledgement of improvements (again, in my opinion) that were made.
End 2/6/2009 update.
I just noticed some complaints about Google Money Tree – about some surprise charges.
1/19/2009, 2:40 Update: Important – WorkAtHomeTruth has NEVER recommended Google Money Tree and still does NOT recommend Google Money Tree.
Here is the original post about GoogleMoneyTree:
Ding dong. I was pretty sure this was an example of “hidden negative option” marketing. That’s when a company ignores FTC disclosure proximity suggestions and tries to hide the fact that you’ll be billed unless you cancel (for some strange reason they don’t want to just tell you that up front…hmmm…).
So I decided to walk through the Google Money Tree order form (using b.s. info of course) to see how they have their sales process set up.
Page 1 was the usual stuff – personal contact info but no credit card.
Page 2 – this is where the fun begins:
Right where you enter your credit card number GoogleMoneyTree puts:
- Google Money Tree Kit: Free
- Shipping & Handling: $3.88
This is where it gets good (or bad depending on how you look at it):
Right to the left of the form where you enter your credit card GoogleMoneyTree has this bold proclamation:
“No Hassle Money Back “Guarantee!
If you are not 100% satisfied with the kit,
simply call our dedicated customer service #
(located in the USA!), and we will immediately
refund your shipping payment… no questions, no hassle!”
It almost makes it sound like the only reason why you would ever really need to contact GoogleMoneyTree’s customer service about billing would be to get your shipping payment refunded…wait, it actually DOES make it look that way.
But lo-and-behold. If you click on the Terms and Conditions Link – the one that states:
“I Agree With the Terms and Conditions” (which has the checkbox conventiently pre-checked for you…awwww…aren’t they nice?)..
And look under the “Shipping & Other Fees” section you’ll stumble onto the following:
“After seven days, if you choose not to cancel you will be billed your first monthly membership fee of seventy two dollars and twenty one cents for the membership fee for the googlemoneytree.com membership.”
That’s cool…wait…No it’s not!! Why couldn’t GoogleMoneyTree just tell me that on the main page? Oh they could have.
For some “odd” reason GoogleMoneyTree didn’t want to do that. I wonder why not? I really wonder…well, not really.
Can someone explain to me how this scenario is materially different than the one discussed in this recent FTC Settlement:
“Free Software CD” Internet Operation Settles FTC Charges
Here’s a tip from Katy about getting the company to refund even the shipping charge – although I would still confirm that the company follows through and actually DOES it (to see why, I STRONGLY URGE you to read about Sonya’s experience in the discussion):
“I am very greatful to you. I had submitted my information already and had been granted access to their members page for registration. But after reading your blog I called 866-870-4257 spoke to their rep and he cancelled my order immediately but told me that the shipping fee would not be refundable. I then read to him their “No Hassle Money Back Guarantee” statement and he then told me “I will refund the fee only because you mentioned the statement”. In other words had I not mentioned to him their guarantee he wouldn’t have automatically refunded my money. Although the ad doesn’t state that the “guarantee statement” has to be mentioned to be warranted a full refund.”
Update: Since so many people have posted complaints here I’ve decided to go ahead and post a link directly to the FTC Complaint Assistant site.
Click here for a list of the Attorneys General. If you plan to file a complaint with the Attorneys General you should file in your own state AND the Attorney General of the state the company is in – which looks to be Nevada.
You can also file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau using the BBB Online Complaint System here.
Update: More information from Sandy who commented and has already filed a complaint: “The phone no is 1-877-382-4357 ftc.gov, The FBI ic3.gov Phone no. 1-800-243-0600. File your complaints with mine and they might go to jail or at least have to refund our money. Also the FTC said we could go to our local state government website and file a fraud complaint with them also.”
For additional information on filing complaints, please visit the complaints section of our friends at EagleResearchAssociates.org.
Update 2/1/2009: Google Money Tree has made more improvements to its order process. Of special note is the fact that the checkbox on page two next to the Terms and Conditions agreement is no longer pre-checked.
Update 1/19/2009, 2:40 PM – The complaints about Google Money Tree continue to roll in (note, this update was made after the 1/19/2009 update directly below about the improvements to the order process)…
Update 1/19/2009 – Google Money Tree has made sigifnicant improvements to their order process. There are still a couple details I’m not crazy about, but it’s good to see the changes they made. The second page HAS been changed to state the terms of the offer on the left side now which is a HUGE improvement, HOWEVER the checkbox for the Terms and Agreement is STILL prechecked and the pricing is WRITTEN OUT instead of being displayed in numerals – I’ll be interested to see how that plays out. I’m going to ask about that at the National Consumers League blog about that as I’m not sure what to think of that.
The ABOVE is merely information on changes GoogleMoneyTree has made – it is NOT an Endorsement or recommendation of the GoogleMoneyTree program.
Update December 25, 2008…Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas? Take a look at the link to their Terms and Conditions on the Actual GoogleMoneyTree site which you can find here.
Here are a couple of AMAZING items from within that section:
- “We handle all charge backs and reversals as potential cases of fraudulent use of our services and/or theft of services”
- “In cases where we have provided a service and we have verified that a client has received a kit and/or received a password to our site(s), whether or not they have used the site in any way, possible actions taken by the company may include disabling access to your account, filing a complaint with the Internet Crimes Bureau or local authorities”
As of December 25th I am recommending people read the comments in this post AND on the blog, but consult with a legal professional as far as what their appropriate course of action should be in this matter.
NOTE: The above is NOT an endorsement of GoogleMoneyTree – it is merely information about the changes they’ve made since this discussion first started.
I highly recommend you contact The National Consumer’s League.
You can file a complaint with them using the form here:
National Consumer League’s Fraud Center Online Complaint Form
Their contact informaion is below:
Contact NCL
Write to us at:
NCL
1701 K Street, NW, Suite 1200,
Washington DC 20006phone 202-835-3323
fax 202-835-0747
email [email protected]Click here for a direct link to the National Consumer’s League Contact Page
I would still suggest you follow the complaint procedures outlined above.
Also, please note that may of the websites listed in our discussion of BradsMoney here have promoted GoogleMoneyTree OR are still promoting it.
Additional tips: If you want to get a FULL version of any web page that involves entering your credit card details, you can use the free service BrowserShots.org
Obviously, Google Money Tree wasn’t people’s path to a work at home business. However, what will also be interesting is to see if the FTC becomes interested in the types of marketing tactics like Mass Money Makers, Online Income Solution, and Paid to Place use raises any eyebrows at some point.
Other Warnings:
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My name is David F. Scarborough Sr. and on the 10th of February, 2009 I ordered the free Google Money Tree program. Since I am presently unimployed, I imagine like most of the people that tried to take advantage of this offer, I thought it might be interesting to take a look for the $3.88 shipping fee. I was in the middle of trying to treat an intestinal problem and never even opened the package they sent me. One week later my bank showed a withdrawal of $72.21 and while I was trying to get this hoax canseled they took another $72.21 out of my account. I finaly got the bank to agree not to release any more money to them and emailed Google Money Tree and withdrew from any further assoc. with them. I asked that they please return my $144.42 and they basicly told me –
TO BAD.
I hope anyone that is involved in a class action suit against this company are successful and you sue the hell out of them. Go for the jugular bud.
the new improved madoffs…a….holes
There is another website to watch out for: GOOGLE FASH CASH under website http://www.incomefromhomekit.com/v3/index2.php?caCode=INCOMEKIT2&p=0&caid=15820&cid1=0&cid2=2440&cid3=0&cid4=False&sid=&stID=67&new=1&misc3=CD8929. Under the disclaimers at the bottom of the front page is the following:
This offering is a contract between you the buyer and our business, the seller. The seller is located in Nicosia, Cyprus and by doing business with us you agree that this offering is made from Nicosia, Cyprus, and shall be governed by the laws of Cyprus. By electing to participate in this offer, you are entering into a contract.
This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of Cyprus, without regard to its conflict of laws rules. Any legal action arising out of this Agreement shall be litigated and enforced under the laws of Cyprus. In addition, you agree to submit to the jurisdiction of the courts of Cyprus, and that any legal action pursued by you shall be within the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Cyprus.
The terms constituting this offering are set forth in writing on this Web site. You hereby agree to submit to the jurisdiction of the Courts located in Nicosia, Cyprus to resolve any disputes or litigation hereunder. Whether or not you choose to print this offering, containing the terms and conditions as described herein, you agree that this contract constitutes a writing.
This agreement is being written in English, which is to be the official language of the contract’s text and interpretation. If you do not agree with the above terms and conditions, you have the option to not participate in this offer.
Do not listen to these people who state this is not a scam. They are plants from the company Google Chest. The only way to get your money back is to go to your credit card company or your bank and tell them this company is a scam and you did not authorize this charge and you want a CHARGE BACK. This is the only way \I have been trying to get my money back since May 15th. I have been to the Attorney General, BBB and the FTC.. The FTC stated that everytime they track them down and get to the address they are gone. They are very good at what they do. Forget trying the upteen numbers. They give you the run around to tire you out and keep your money. It is to much paperwork and they have to prove their service or product to keep your money on a chargeback. See this ABC News Video on Google Treasure Chest Scam http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/special_reports&id=6873047
That is the only way. Go to the Fraud Dept. of your bank, file a claim for a charge Back. That is the only way you will ever see your money again.
But first always call a nd cancel this service or they will keep charging your credit card. That is first and foremost.
There numbers are: Google Chest 888-705-1275 Grant Springs: 888-247-2155 Safe Lock: 866-879-1266
dumbasses do your research
i puechased google kit 2009 on saturday and tried all night to activate the prograam cause it said i didnt have to wait for it to come in the mail after ill let them bill my credit card for 1.88 i got a conformation number in an email with login and password info to and a 1-88564281 which when i tried to cancel the next morning cause i to had a seven day free trial but needed to cancel on fifth day it was buissey then i could leave a message now its saying my call cant be dialed ive called atleast 15 different google sites and they all have told me either nothing or that they dont charge those kind of fees for shipping and handling procuts and those are scams and have suggested i close my account and open a new one i just did so and am still looking for a number to cancel with them sothey cant try to charge me later the 90.00 some dallors a month they say there going to charge me i have the website i got it from its
http://rs925.cashsecretclub.com/?subid=261417417&pubid=450332 these sites just wnt torob the people who are dumb enough to fall for there scam like me and now my accounts bee closed and i cant get a hold of anyone to cancel will i still be reasponsable for there fees cause i accepted there terms and policy please help im very confued and fustrated and worried about this all
If you can’t resolve it with the company directly you’ll need to file a dispute with your credit card company if you feel like you really did make a good faith effort to cancel.
However, I’m looking at the order page for CashSecretClub and they have the infamous PRECHECKED checkbox for the terms and conditions which is something the original National Consumers League Warning mentioned in their write-up about the other site – Google Money Tree.
That is something that would be worth mentioning if you file a dispute with your credit card company.
Also, I found the photo of the African American women used for the second testimonial on a stock photo site.
The terms for the CashSecretClub site are here:
CashSecretClub Terms and state:
“If you have not cancelled the free bonus within the 7 day trial period (if offered on product purchasing), you are agreeing to purchase the bonus material and/or service at a monthly reoccurring cost. The resource center is billed at $81.32 monthly. This can be cancelled at anytime simply by calling 1-800-235-1364 or by calling the customer service number provided in the confirmation email and stating your desire to cancel said bonus material. However, in order to not be charged any future reoccurring cost, please give ample time (2 business days) to be cancelled out of any reoccurring billing system before the next scheduled charge to your account (this does not apply during any trial period). Not cancelling trial programs constitutes authorization, by you, the buyer, for any charges (as outlined) for the associated bonus service until your request to cancel has been received by our customer service staff. By not cancelling the bonus program during the trial period or prior to two days before a scheduled billing cycle, you agree that any reoccurring charges billed to you will be non-refundable. All products are shipped via USPS.”
Hi everyone,
Can you please read the following, I could really use some help!….
I’ve failed for this trick… Paid the 3.88$ for the shipping… Then saw some comments about people getting scammed with the 72$… Called the credit card company to cancel my card, called Google Money to cancel the whole thing… This seems to be over now…
The problem is… Since 2 days now, I keep receiving calls from unknown ID, always speaking english (I live in a french place), calling me by my name and everything. They’re always offering me ways to make money out of internet. And when I ask them how they got my number, they never know… Is there anything I can do about this? I receive around 20 damn calls a day! This is getting nuts!
Please, help me out! I’m seriously considering filling in a pursuit or something against them for violation of my privacy and giving away my phone number!
I could really use some help!
Thanks a lot!
Myshaele
Myshaele,
I’m not sure what you’d do about that in France, but if you read through this discussion you’ll see several people complaining about the same sort of thing.
People filing complaints to the FTC seems to have (finally) spurred them into some action:
FTC opens all-out assault on economic cyber-scammers.
FTC goes after Google Money Tree, Mentoring of America and others in Operation Short Change
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/43177
Federal Trade Commission v. Infusion Media, Inc., a corporation, also d/b/a Google Money Tree, Google Pro, Internet Income Pro, and Google Treasure Chest, West Coast Internet Media, Inc., a corporation, also d/b/a Google Money Tree, Google Pro, Internet Income Pro, and Google Treasure Chest, Two Warnings, LLC a limited liability company, Two Part Investments, LLC a limited liability company
(United States District Court for the District of Nevada)
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0923060/index.shtm
Dubbed “Operation Short Change,” the law enforcement sweep announced today includes 15 FTC cases, 44 law enforcement actions by the Department of Justice, and actions by at least 13 states and the District of Columbia.
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/07/shortchange.shtm
No mention of going after the CPA networks or their affiliates though, which is what they need to do if they really want to crack down on this stuff.
Not Kevin,
I agree about going after the affiliate networks and the affiliates, although I think the affiliate networks are the more important target here as they are the major means of distribution for these offers.
You may recall the case where the Florida AG went after Azoogle a couple years ago:
State of Florida vs Azoogle
Paul, I’m a “check things out first” kind of a girl and thank God for your site and information. Because of you I am not on the list of those who got scammed.
Thank you.
Glad to hear it, Susan
If you can’t figure out whether not something’s legit or not through your own research, you can also pose the question in the forum here:
/forum/
How do I cancel this account for this fraud company if they dont respond and the information they give you is fake. Also that there is no other way to cancel cause the information is descriet? If I cancel my Debit card and get a new one will that work?
Ok, on 4/03/09 I got a refund for Google Treasure Chest-$72.21 and Bela Clear-$78.00 and was told any accounts or business in my name or card # was canceled. Even though I NEVER signed up for ANYTHING, didn’t even know about this till I saw it on my bank statement. Then 4/16/09 my card was charged $72.21 for Money Tree Sys and again on 6/1/09. I called Chase bank and they told me to call Money tree. Twice I have called and demanded a refund for charges I had NOTHING to do with. They told me I would get it in 5-10 business days. So the days go by and I call again. Of course, no record of any refund, cancellation or even conversation. More yelling and demanding and again told I would be canceled and get a refund in 5-10 business days. Now, times up again and nothing. I call my bank and they ask me for a refund or cancellaton #. What? I never knew to get this. I did tell money tree to give me ANY info for the refund. Just got a name, Justin, and a “promise” that notes were made and I was canceled. So now I’m trying to call money tree back and the ph # i have goes straight to “the system opperator is not avaiable, transferring to backup opperator…the backup opperator is not available. If you know the extention…please dial it now.” So now, how do I get a hold of any one? I’ve even tried the other number for Google Treasure Chest, just got “all circuts are busy now, try later”. Why can’t Chase Bank help me? They’re supposed to help me, that’s what their commercials say.
Julie, do you mean you never originally gave them your card # to charge it for this “service”? You won’t be able to prove that since they have your card #, but you should keep calling. It’s annoying I know, but don’t give up, you have to hang up and call back, call as many times a day as you can until you get a person and get your cancellation number. Keep a record of every time you call and if you can, put them on speaker phone and record it onto your computer using a microphone. Tell them you want your cancellation number, and take their names and ID #’s of every rep you speak to. If they don’t give you ID#’s just get names. But don’t give up. It’s YOUR CARD. And write a short letter to your Attorney General with all the info you put here on this site, and a record of the numbers you’ve called to cancel the “service”. I wish no one would ever fall for these scams… there’s no such thing as easy money and each person is better off finding something they are good at and enjoy as a skill or talent and doing that to make money than buying an “internet work from home kit”. The world doesn’t need more internet scammers… scammers can never teach legitimate ideas anyway, only teach you how to scam… the world needs you and your individual self!
I finally got my refund from my bank. I did get a new card a few weeks ago. Money tree is still unreachable by any #’s I have. I am reporting them to every agency and I have ties to the Attny General in UT. There’s also a TV reporter here named Gephart that loves to investigate this kind of thing. Thanks for the info and help.
That’s great you hung in there and got your $ back!! I sometimes think those creeps just count on people giving up and losing their money. Anyway, blessings to ya! YouTube channel: Springchickn
Also scammed, by google treasure chest! My experience was just like all the other people on this blog. My cc statement stated, for refunds call 866957 Sandy UT. It took me quite awhile working with my cc company to get a decent phone number to call so I could cancel. The second charge of $72.21 appeared again the following month with another number for google chest 888-256-1248 which was no longer in service. I have been credited for the one charge of $72.21 and am still fighting for a credit for the second charge. I was told to send an email to support@googletreasurechest with a scanned copy of my cc statement with the incomplete phone number and of course it failed, just like the above person. I WILL continue to fight for this refund.
This company is rude, fraudulent, dispicable and should be held accountable.
is this the same as the google online business that is
endosed by the local tv net works
do not use the goodle work at home deal for only 1.89 you will be debited 49.95 from your account a few days later then they do not answert the phones on the number connceted with the services which comes up on your account as fastcash..lol fastcash alright but not fot you!!!Or was it for me
August 2, 2009
I read the article and the comments from this website… (new york gazette)
http://www.newyorkgazettenews.com/index.php?aid=6620534&KW=Ad3
I figured that if the article was in the New York Gazette and offered by Google it would be something reliable. Something honest. Something that was not a scheme of sorts.
I filled out the page requesting more information. What I got was a series of about 20 calls starting at 6am the next morning and continuing until I finally talked to someone. I paid the $1.98. Got the information from the website. (The information).
It was all too confusing. I am a college graduate, currently in graduate school looking for some help to pay off some student loans. I looked at the site, and the steps were complicated. It took me nearly 8 hours to navigate through the site.
Once there, you are told you have to sign up for a free adsense account. So I signed up, and it was free indeed.. BUT it would not begin for 7 days.. That’s right sports fans, I could not use the adsense UNTIL AFTER the 7 day trial period for the google business.
It was at that point I called the 1-800 number and cancelled.
Just unbelievable that those guys are allowed to still advertise!!! WHERE IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL!? I’m going to post a You Tube video to tell people they are scammers, I have proof, I know the lady from Sweden whose video of a money tree that they stole for their YouTube campaign. These google money tree freaks must be stopped. YouTube channel Springchickn.
What is te 800 # for Google Money Tree
Robert,
I’m not sure if they are still taking calls or not after the FTC filing, but one of the old numbers was: Phone: 1(866) 870-4257
What about the companies that get paid to promote these scams.
Companies like mediatrust.com are just as big of scammers as the people who make the product. They get paid to trick people into buying these things!
If Paul will allow me to add some levity here, I just got sick of Google Money Tree using someone else’s video on YouTube as their own, and I spoke with the author and she’s trying to get them to take it down… so I made my own video to expose that they stole her video and they are a scam! Here’s the link if you will allow it, thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2znrHYTMeMM
Joey,
I agree with you.
Brooke, interesting to see those complaints in video format and sorry to hear about your friend’s video.
Sorry, I don’t know what URL stands for, but I do have a comment about Google Money Tree. I also got the CD, and I did read the T & C. After two months when I finally had time to put the CD in, it had a Trojan virus in it. I immediately took it out, and now, too late, I have found this site to help me. I am going to try the phone number, report to the FTC and assorted other folks. Wish me luck.
I thought I wanted to sign up to do this Google thing. I have been looking for some kind of work from home thing for 2 months and have not been successful (because I dont want to get caught in a scam)I actually started to give them my info, like my number and address… and when they wanted my debit info… thats when I thought about the whole tooth whitening incident! There was a single mom, just like me, who whitened her teeth for only a couple of dollars… so I ordered what she used.. and weeks later I found out they charged me like 75 dollars.. ANYWAY..I never gave Google my debit info, but they KEEP CALLING ME!!!! 2 months ago I was a telemarketer, so I know how it all works, but THEY keep calling me EVERY single hour. I finally answered, and talked to them, and asked if the price of 1.95 would ever go up, and she said, YES really fast and went on to her next comment!!! Heres the number that keeps calling me. 201-918-3081
Here is the worst story your ever gonna hear about this crap …
my did the free cd thing and i used my account for the three dollers s&h and then a month later i have a charge on my account for the 72 they have a monthly membership feee and she never opend the cd or went to the site to look into it they still signed her up with out tellin her and used my card info for it. they never had permission to do that eather …
so i call and tell them i will returen it just give me back my money they give me the prosses on how to get your money back and i followed thru every step and have a fed ex proff they recived it and i called back the guy says i will get my money back with in 5 to 7 days he looked it up and said it was goin …
oh and the lookin it up was a b***h too they couldnt find me in there system cause it in some old prorgam they dont use anymore so they have to change computer what ever all lies they even lie on the message when you call … i called durin business hours and the massage says were closed call back durin busniess hours bla bla bla i look at my watch and the time mached up i was callin in the time frame…
my money never comes i call back and they say they gave me the money and that i have it in my account NO i dont…
i filed a complaint with my bank they and get denyed twice sayin that i recived the services rinderd or what ever …
filed complant with bbb and you cant do that beacuse they are located out of the uk …
still no money back and no cd … ive been robed the worst way
Money Mastery..owned by Time & Money LLC is part of the scam!
They are now advertising at Youporn.com
Check it out
The advertising network who allows this scammer to advertise is http://www.etology.com
Contact all etology.com to force them to stop having this guy advertise at youporn.com
this is the banner he uses, which actually has a mindfuck detail in it, $72
http://media.etology.com/bannerimg/142129/v1/142129.jpeg
all contact etology on [email protected] and youporn.com at [email protected]
Interesting since as of today YouPorn is ranked #48 in popularity according to Alexa here:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/youporn.com
And #42 in the QuantCast rankings:
http://www.quantcast.com/youporn.com
And #193 in the Compete rankings:
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/youporn.com/
So these scammers still have plenty of advertising outlets.
That is so funny!
Wow! the threads are endless on this issue. I order the CD several months ago, but called and canceled. I found some useful things on the CD, so it isn’t a complete wash. My biggest issue with it was that there wasn’t any clear direction. Just a bunch of stuff thrown on it.
Cant get a hold of them any more you should call and see i get the same shit every time
email us if you have any complaints about kevinsmoneytree.com.
we have them as an advertiser
email us at [email protected] if you have any complaints about kevinsmoneytree.com.
we have them as an advertiser
Caution: If you do email the above site, I suggest you set up a temporary email to do it from just in case it’s a trap to use your email for spam.
You can look up “temporary email addresses” and find a temporary email address for free.
I’m still being annoyed as hell by Kevin Larson’s Money Tree and San Diego Times audio advertisements on web pages. Is this part of the same scam and if it is, why isn’t the FCC seeking an injunction to stop other people from being scammed while the federal case goes forward?
@Alan K: Great question.
Love your blog, btw. Will you be updating it more regularly?
HAHA! Paul, isn’t that funny YouPorn thinks anyone would ask them for help with anything!!! what a laugh! Glad this blog still helps people be aware of Google Money Tree’s scams! Because the only difference between a scam and scum is “u”… best to avoid it!!
Happy New Year!
@Brooke: LOL. True enough Brooke.
It’s like saying “We’re knowingly runing this scammy ad. You can trust us to help you out.”.
Huh?
I made my OWN parody of the Kevin Hoeffer site here, by the way:
How I Made 10 Billion Dollars Posting a Link On Google.
Sadly, despite how outrageous the site is some people STILL seem to think it’s real!
Paul,
Love your site. Everybody sshould check it out!
Businesses like these are pulling the online business down. There really are ways to make money online that are legitimate and these kind of businesses who are scamming people are making them afraid to invest and make money online. If you notice, most of these programs’ landing pages are all vague, they’re misleading people. I mean what’s the main reason on why they can’t put it up front that there is a monthly/recurring billing? I guess main reason is that it is really for scamming people and not really a true product even if you opt for the monthly payments, you won’t get anything from it.
first of all i have to say your all idiots and dumb to fall for these scams they are 100% easy to spot this is hilarious.
this is exactly why we have scams cause your all idiots who fall for them =.=