Review Summary:
Web Fortune Vault is the latest in a long series of sites I've warned about since February 5, of 2012. I strongly recommend you AVOID Web Fortune Vault. See full review below to see why.
Reason #1) The “Coaching Department” company mentioned in the testimonials on the Web Fortune Vault sales page is being investigated by Ohio Attorney General Mike Dewine.
From the Ohio AG’s announcement:
“According to the Attorney General, defendants Novus North LLC, doing business as Your eCommerce Support International LLC, YES International, Apply Knowledge LLC, doing business as Coaching Department, and VI Education LLC marketed a program that would help consumers create, develop, market, and run their own Internet businesses from home. The businesses also marketed additional products they claimed were essential to any successful business.
Sales representatives often made verbal promises that consumers could recover their initial investment in one to three months or earn $3,000 to $10,000 per month working only seven to 10 hours per week, but the Attorney General alleges that they failed to honor Ohioans’ valid requests to cancel their agreement and failed to provide full refunds.”
Reason #2) The Web Fortune Vault site is operated either by a company associated with Phillip Gannuscia. One of those companies and their alternate names (dba) are also the subject of the Ohio AG investigation mentioned in Reason #1).
If you took time to read the Terms and Conditions page and Privacy Policy on WebFortuneVault.com, you will have noticed that they refer to agreements between you and Profit Masters Academy. Here are a couple of screenshots showing that…
Here is a partial screenshot of the Web Fortune Vault Terms and Conditions that reference Profit Masters Academy:
Here is a partial screenshot of the Web Fortune Vault Terms and Conditions that reference Profit Masters Academy:
Here’s an explanation of the connection between Profit Masters Academy and Phillip Gannuscia:
And according to the BBB, Phillip Gannuscia is a principle of Vensure Intl, which includes Novus North, LLC as a member…and Novus North, LLC is another party being sued by Ohio Attorney General Mike Dewine:
Reason #3) Web Fortune Vault is using Testimonials that may be violating the Federal Trade Commissions No Safe Harbor guidelines.
Here is one of the testimonials from the Mary Johnson Web Fortune Vault site:
This exact same testimonial was the subject of a recent Council Of Better Business Bureau Electronic Retailing Self-Regulation Program review. Here’s what they said:
“Advertisements that feature a consumer and convey that his or her experience with a product or service may be “typical” when that is not the case, are required by the Federal Trade Commission to clearly disclose the results that consumers can generally expect to receive. Accordingly, ERSP noted, marketers should, when using consumer testimonials, either provide substantiation that the consumer’s stated experience is “typical” or, conversely, indicate what the typical result would be given the scenario presented in the testimonials.”
Click here to see the full ERSP review (you might also want to ask yourself why the BBB is merely doing an advertising review at the same time Ohio Attorney General is filling a lawsuit against the same company?!?)
Reason #4) Web Fortune Vault is using stock photos for its testimonials.
Not only is WebFortuneVault.com using stock photos for its testimonials, sometimes it’s even using stock photos that don’t make any sense. Check out this testimonial from a “60 year old woman” (a.k.a. “Young Man” at iStockPhoto here).
Reason #5) Mary Johnson is a stock photo
The image used for “Mary Johnson” at WebFortuneVault.com is a stock photo. Click here to verify.
Reason #6) The Trust-Guard seal goes to the wrong website
If you click on the Trust-Guard seal at WebFortuneVault.com it takes you to a seal for ProfitMastersAcademy.com instead of WebFortuneVault.com. You can see that in the video below:
Reason #7) Bogus Income Projections
The Web Profit Vault site would like you to think that you can make money “simply posting links”. They even go so far as to say this:
“Put it this way: To post one link takes between 3 to 4 minutes. To be conservative, let’s say it takes 4 minutes. Well, if you post one link every 4 minutes, and you do that for 60 minutes, that amounts to 15 links in just 60 minutes. And the average amount you make per link placed is $15.
Let’s do the math: 10 links for $15 each equals $150. That’s $150 for 60-minutes of work! If you do this five days a week, you can make $1,050 a week… $4,200 a month… and $50,400 a year! And that’s just 1 hour a day, I do at least 3 hours per day Monday thru Friday keeping the weekends to myself.”
Many of you will recognize that the Bogus Income Projection table used by Web Fortune Vault is the same type of table used by old envelope stuffing scams as you can see in the image below:
Reason #8) The “Free Consultation” Gimmick
Towards the end of the sales letter for Web Fortune Vault, you’ll see that you will be getting a “Free one-on-one consultation with a success advisor”
This is where your nightmare begins. The real purpose of the “Free consultation” is to get you to talk to a high-pressure, hard-sell sales person who will try to squeeze as much money out of you based on how much money they think you have.
If you have had experience with Web Fortune Vault, please your experience in the comment section below. Feel free to post any questions in the comments section as well.
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Mark says
I know of at least 20 other URLs that all have that Kimberly Chandler from Arizona testimonial. These sites reside in at least 4 different states (Utah, Idaho, Arizona, California) and the businesses are registered to various people. Many of the businesses are linked to YES International (Phillip Gannuscia, Jessica Bjarnson, and others) and Apply Knowledge. However some of the sites are owned by completely unconnected individuals. Apply Knowledge is just a re-seller for Website Dynamics, a subsidiary of Mezine Inc. out of British Columbia. Mezine owns citymax.com, which produces a template web builder, which Apply Knowledge and other Coaching sales companies hustle. These companies themselves use a template provided by website dynamics for their re-sellers. Just look at one of their template examples for their re-sellers, http://www.dynamicdemo14.com/, sure looks a lot like Apply Knowledge\’s marketing homepage, applyki.com/marketing/home. Mezine is also the owner of DOBA! the crappy dropship company that all of Apply Knowledge\’s clients use. So really this is the next AMWAY…online. Mezine brings on re-sellers under them to sell ecommerce websites to the naive buyers who will sell DOBA products on their crappy ecommerce websites. The buyers are led to believe they can make money by selling DOBA products on Mezine template websites to the general public. Kind of like building a downline! I estimate these companies out of Utah, which are the worse, have made well into the 9 digits in the last few years hustling this garbage. Their day will come soon.
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Fantastic information. I’ll dig into it further. Do you have a site you run that has this information posted already that I can link to?
Mark says
I don’t have a site with this information unfortunately, I am just extremely familiar with these companies. I do have some more information I would like to share though, information you should just create a blog post about. You should send my email a message. :)
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
OK. I sent you an email message. Did you get it?
mark says
thanks for doing this research and info sharing. well done
alan says
Have you found ANY work at home sites that are trying to honestly HELP people develop income for a fair fee?
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
If you are looking for beginning training in generating income from your own website, you might want to take a look at this video which will give you a reality check.
If you are looking for more traditional work, I have a good list of places where you can look here:
/work-at-home-jobs/
Tabitha says
just want to say if you give them your info you will get junk mail immediately and they will call you a million times. i called them to request having them remove my number and they were rude when i wanted to give them the correct number not the number i was using to call. i spoke with 2 people and they both were rude. customer service in most companies is not what it used to be AT ALL!
Donnie Walpool says
I was reading and thinking bout joining web forture vault, but now after reading your articles. I am glad that I decided not too. Thank you so much for all the information that you provide.
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
You’re welcome.
Jill V. says
Same here. I had my fiancé look at this & after ONE glance he looked up you here & sent me this link. I was actually getting ready to join…but held off to read some instant messages. You & (my sweetie) stopped me in my tracks. Actually on my way to apply. Feeling stupid anyone? =/
Also thanks for helpful links to legit sites. Being disabled…having something I can do & not be living paycheck to paycheck.
Ooh I just found this…it’s legit! The company is called Alpine Express. A gf of mine has worked there for 7yrs now from home. Ironic things are happening to me at the final countdown being on your website. Happy, happy consumer right here!
Thank you so very much! ~♥~
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Great to hear!
Mike H. says
Hey Paul,
Thanks for the info…good stuff. I really need to supplement my income, I am really struggling to make ends meet. I watched the video you had a link to called “Make Money Online With Michael S. Brown”. So are you saying he is a legitimate place for me to get started?
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
It’s legit.
Or if you’re looking for more traditional work, you can take a look at this page:
/work-at-home-jobs/
Mike H. says
Thanks, I appreciate your help.
mason wallin says
I j regretedly just purchased the web fortune vault and also just read your page one the web fortune vault scam and am torn. does web fortune vault work at all or is it 100% scam and I lost my money. or can I salvage the situation and make some money? please give me some advice!!
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Mason,
Other people have said that their material is outdated. But more concerning is now your on a kind of “suckers list” where you will be bombarded with emails and phone calls. If you haven’t already you’re going to start getting calls from people offering you “training” or “coaching” and trying to squeeze thousands of dollars out of you. I’d highly recommend you try to get a refund. And if the money isn’t in your account within 2 business days, file a dispute with your credit card company or bank.
Kim says
I was just looking into web fortune vault and im glad that i seen this website before i actually sent them my information. it was a little fishy that they called me while i was staring at there website trying to decide if i should try it. I even asked the lady that called me if it was a scam and she told me that it was indeed real and that she used it herself. She is apparently going to call me back at 6:30 to speak to my boyfriend about his credit card info. thank you so much for opening my eyes. Im as broke as it gets and that 47 dollars they would have taken would have been my dinner for a couple days. Is there really a website out there that promises the things they do? I cant keep a job and i need something like that to earn some money. I was questioning the website the entire time, why should you have to pay to have a job doing those things. thanks again.
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Use the free resources on this page:
/work-at-home-jobs/
Alicia says
I have been scammed by them and I am trying to get a refund!!!!! any suggestions? customer service will not answer calls for refunds and now my email replies say that refunds can only be given through customer service. I am thinking I may make a short video and post on you tube about them and how not to use them!!! They wanted me to charge more monies to credit cards to get my business up and going and when I refused how ironic is it that a live person can not be reached since.!
thanks Alicia
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Alicia, use this information:
/how-can-i-get-my-money-back/
Lakeisha says
Wow, wow this is ridiculous. I almost believe the success stories. I get the payment option and stop for some reason. Not even 30 min. a guy call from Nevada trying to get me to finish the application and get started. The persistence in his voice. I’m telling him that I’m not around my purse he tells me he will wait while I go and get it. Thats when I knew I had to do more research. Which brought me here. Thank you for putting this out there.
wallflower says
Sunday night I was looking for work at home job websites and I did run across fortune vault and it did sound true and I tried to pay for the package and it would not let my account go thru I guess that was God’s way of letting me know that it wasn’t a good site to believe in. Thank you for your knowledge.
Kai White says
Thank you so much for this, I almost tried to borrow the 47 dollars to get started with WEB vault. My hours have been cut at my job and I just can seem to find another one that is feasible for our lifestyle. We have one car, a child that needs me to be home to help her with school as she is struggling and my last check was a complete joke, we are broke! I did not have the money to pay for this package but at this point I was willing to make the investment to help our family get from under water. I need to work from home. I am a writer but not a web tech. I have no idea how to create a web page or what to do with it once I have it, but I am wiling to learn and I am not computer illiterate. I can write a pretty good article and I believe I know how to connect with people through my writing. But most companies want you to have experience or a home office, which I have neither! I am writing a children’s book and I work as a pre-school teacher at a private Christian academy. I came upon the HUB pages site, do you know anything about hub pages? Is it a scam to or is it real? Again thank you for saving my family from further debt and pain. You are a true blessing, a gift from God!
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Hub Page is a site where people can write and they will split their ad revenue. So in that sense, yes it’s legit. That doesn’t mean everything people put on the site is legit, though.
Sara says
ok So i saw this review online about the top 3 work from home sites, written by a Sarah Johnson, and she mentions number one-Web Fortune Master. She says its BBB A+ rated…but i tried looking it up on BBB and never found it. Is this a scam or legit?
Number two she says is the Web Fortune Vault that you’ve said was a scam so that makes me iffy about Johnsons review on these sites. She said this was BBB A+ rated also but obviously that was false..
Then number 3 is Automated PayDays. Do you know anything about this one?
Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) says
Sarah Johnson is a fake person. All 3 of “her” recommendations are scams.
You can read about Automated Paydays here:
http://www.realscam.com/f8/automated-paydays-scam-legit-1822/